The Bitch in the Red Dress ([info]asukasan) wrote in [info]anti_porn,
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Porn Stars Having/Raising Children

How does everyone in the community feel about Jenna Jameson's pregnancy? Jameson and boyfriend, Tito Ortiz, recently announced that they are expecting twins together, and I was wondering how you felt about porn stars(or I guess ex-porn stars in Jameson's case) having children.
Personally, I'm against it. Even though my opinion means nothing to these people, or even to others around me, I don't think that porn stars should be allowed to have children. I feel that it is a bad environment to raise children in-and I don't even want kids of my own-and I don't think porn stars deserve to be parents. If prostitutes are demonised for having children, then why not porn stars? Because doing porn is "legal" and somehow less harmful for children.
I don't care if Jenna "has always wanted children" or that she said she would quit porn after getting pregnant.. I don't think that she should have children. If Jenna worked a legitimate job and made legitimate money, maybe I feel she would be more deserving of children. I feel pain for her twins when they grow up, being known as Jameson's children. Imagine when they go to school, "Isn't your mom a whore*? Does that mean you'll be a whore when you grow up, too?" "Is your father your real father, since your mom has had sex with so many men?"
I would hate to see a child put through that kind of life, because Jameson's career as a porn star will be with her for the rest of her life-doing porn is the only thing she will ever be known for; it's the only thing she ever wanted to be acknowledged for: "Right now, my goal is to be the biggest star this industry has ever known."
Not much of a goal...

So, what does everyone else think? Should porn stars, both past and present, be allowed to have and raise children or not?
(*Note: I hate using the word "whore" when describing women, and my use of the word is strictly for thought process, because not many people-kids and young adults anyway-would ever refer to a porn star as just that. They'll use some kind of derogatory form, such as "whore" to describe a porn star.)

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[info]biscayne

September 29 2008, 01:38:54 UTC 3 years ago

I think that you are absolutely right.

[info]spacelover_it

September 29 2008, 01:42:40 UTC 3 years ago Edited:  September 29 2008, 01:43:19 UTC

She can move to another country a usea false name, kids' school mates will not recognize her

[info]biscayne

September 29 2008, 01:44:41 UTC 3 years ago

Jenna Jameson is pretty recognizable even in other countries . . . I feel bad for the unborn children.

[info]amp7734

September 29 2008, 02:11:44 UTC 3 years ago

You think they shouldn't be allowed????
Seriously?

I think it sucks that she chose that career. I suck that we live in a society that teaches that women should be valued on looks above all else, and that she, and so many people buy into that. A lot about this situation, and everything around it sucks..but saying she shouldn't be allowed to have kids is ridiculous.

Where do you draw the line? If someone was a prostitute once? What if they were forced? If they were a stripper? If they were poor? etc.

What constitutes a "legitimate" job? I think most people can agree that a big part of being a "successful" porn star is being considered conventionally attractive, right? So, what about other jobs based on looks? Like stripping? And modeling? Working at Hooters? Working at pretty much any sports bar?

I'm not saying there aren't problems with these jobs, dear god no..but picking and choosing who gets the RIGHT to breed? Really now.

I can say with a good amount of certainty that this attitude won't be helping her kids any. If any children that do give her kids shit have parents who think along the same lines... I wonder, were they to be contacted about the bullying, if the parents wouldn't just say she picked the job, and deserves the shit she gets. "Well, it's true. She is a whore."

Yeah.

It's unfortunate that she choose to be a porn star, it's unfortunate that society made her believe that this was the best way to spend her life, but I wish her children the best.

[info]femmefatalist

September 29 2008, 02:57:20 UTC 3 years ago

thanks for saying what i was going to say, but more articulately. i agree completely.

[info]asukasan

September 29 2008, 03:04:15 UTC 3 years ago

Society didn't make Jenna believe that she didn't have any other choice besides going into porn. She has admitted that she started doing porn to get back at an ex-boyfriend for cheating on her. She chose the lifestyle, not society; and society didn't make her believe that having sex with complete strangers, abusing her own body, was the only way she would get some recognition. She has nobody to blame for that but herself, because she chose, not them.
Jenna chose to become a stripper at age 16. Being a stripper, modeling, working at Hooter's, all legitimate jobs. Being forced into something, like most prostitutes, and choosing to do so, as Jenna has done, makes the difference.
Honestly, I don't care how Jameson chooses to raise her children, or the fact that she is having them, really. But I won't be surprised when the kids come home from school and they tell her, "Mommy, kids at school were saying that you're a whore. is that true?" Especially if Jameson decides to keep her children in the dark-at least while they're young-about her former lifestyle before she became a parent.
Who knows? She may actually be a good parent, but let's hope her past as a porn star doesn't come back to haunt her which, being Jenna Jameson, it most likely will.

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[info]rasp_berry_jam

September 29 2008, 03:05:19 UTC 3 years ago

While I agree that the enviroment is certainly not a healthy one to raise a child in, the day anyone decides who can and cannot have children is the day I start a revolution. Now should is a different matter all together.
I don't think porn stars should have kids until they are out of the industry completely and for good. I also don't think that strippers and prostitutes should have kids, even thought the reason that a good many do what they do is because they have little mouths to feed. Drug dealers should definately not have kids, neither should drug users. And really, family love is subjective. My parents abused
drugs and alcohol throughout my childhood. They often wouldn't play with me because they were too high. I was allowed to walk around and their parties where inebriated men and women forced me to do things I didn't want to do(nothing sexual as far as I recall) like once when a man forced bear down my throught when I was four. Once, they even put off aking me to the emergency room when I couldn't breath because they were too high too drive. These are all of the bad things that happened, and truthfully there are many more. But I love my parents. they would never maliciously hurt me, and they want the best for me. My parents are extremly damaged individuals that did the best they thought they could do. I do not hate them for my misfortunes at the hands of their ignorance. They love my brother and me, and that really is enough.

[info]watersaredeep

September 29 2008, 03:18:20 UTC 3 years ago Edited:  September 29 2008, 03:20:22 UTC

I dislike porn with a fiery passion for many reasons. However, when it comes to women having or not having the right to bear children, I am appalled when we determine just who can and who shouldn't have kids.

I can't imagine being the child of a porn star mom and how much shame that could bring them in their tender years, but I can't imagine either a woman who wants, but isn't entitled to having kids.

There aren't any easy answers are there? :(

[info]absentesse

September 29 2008, 04:09:27 UTC 3 years ago

lol, porn stars not allowed to have have children.....well I'm sure they're very happy that you are not Queen of the Uterus'.

Children are more resilient than anyone gives them credit for, and all children get some kind of shit, I don't know *anyone* who didn't have nasty things said and done to them growing up. Not saying they deserve the crap they may get, but to say some women shouldn't have a child because of the potential shit the child would get at school, well hell, we might as well ban having children altogether.

I think instead of passing judgment on the women in the porn industry, we should be passing judgment on the industry itself. What another woman does with her uterus is none of anyone else's business.

[info]slow_bullet

September 29 2008, 10:06:26 UTC 3 years ago

No kidding!

[info]absentesse

September 29 2008, 04:28:38 UTC 3 years ago

One more thing - you seem concerned about the children being taunted.

If my child came home and called another kids' mother a whore, I'd be a lot less concerned about that woman's sexual history than I would about my child using such misogynistic, derogatory language. How about we all teach our children to respect women? I know it seems like an alien concept...but lets try? I think children using those words says far more about them, their parents and our society than it does about the women they refer to.

[info]aquariusrage

September 30 2008, 07:20:21 UTC 3 years ago

I completely agree.

[info]antidamen

September 29 2008, 06:46:19 UTC 3 years ago

...

I'm pretty sure their kids will grow up to be openminded people who KNOW ABOUT their mothers past, and who most likely think it was sort of a crazy thing from way back, that their mom is famous for being gorgeous and that they're pretty much proud of her and what she has become, especially if she's not doing porn anymore from now on ..?

[info]necrocute

September 29 2008, 09:24:25 UTC 3 years ago

Jeezy Creezy!
Goose stepping all the way to the clinic it is I guess!

[info]slow_bullet

September 29 2008, 10:05:31 UTC 3 years ago

Oh the things wrong with this post...


How does everyone in the community feel about Jenna Jameson's pregnancy?

What right does anyone here have to 'feel' any way about her pregnancy?!

I don't think that porn stars should be allowed to have children. I feel that it is a bad environment to raise children in-and I don't even want kids of my own

ALLOWED?! And what environment are you talking about? It's not like they are giving birth and raising them on a live set!! And why is it people without kids are always the most opinionated about parenting?

If prostitutes are demonised for having children, then why not porn stars?

What on earth are you talking about? Who demonises prostitutes for having children, and how dare they!

Imagine when they go to school, "Isn't your mom a whore*? Does that mean you'll be a whore when you grow up, too?" "Is your father your real father, since your mom has had sex with so many men?"

These are ugly ugly sentiments and comments that come from ugly ugly people and the children who REALLY raised by irresponsible parents. What child asks another child to defend their mother’s sexual choices?? A child who needs help!

I’m really upset with the position you have taken with this post.

[info]nelsolidarida

September 29 2008, 13:15:43 UTC 3 years ago

Totally agreed.

[info]ghostlove

September 29 2008, 11:54:53 UTC 3 years ago

This is one of the most horrible, anti-woman posts I have ever read.

[info]slow_bullet

September 29 2008, 12:06:32 UTC 3 years ago

No kidding.

[info]nelsolidarida

September 29 2008, 13:17:00 UTC 3 years ago

There were worse ones on here, back in the day. But yeah, slut-bashing detracts from genuine objections to porn in a big way.

[info]absentesse

September 29 2008, 21:59:30 UTC 3 years ago

Absolutely.

[info]jon_is_angry

September 29 2008, 14:52:47 UTC 3 years ago

Here's a novel idea: How about instead of bashing Jenna Jameson for being a porn star, we bash the industry that treated her like shit? How about we bash the producers and marketers that take something beautiful and reduce it to garbage? How about we take a look at a society that demonizes a woman's sexuality? How about we tackle the myth that you have to be stupid or have no worth if you get by on your physical appearance?

Let's get all that taken care of, and then we'll start talking about who should breed. Because I have a few ideas for that subject myself, mostly involving people who cut me off while I'm driving, some rednecks, anyone who uses the N-word, and more!

[info]blueabsinthe

October 1 2008, 01:15:15 UTC 3 years ago

Wow, the amount of things wrong with this post astounds me ...

How does everyone in the community feel about Jenna Jameson's pregnancy?
I'm glad we've reached that point in time where we are allowed to tell others how we 'feel' about their decision to have children. What gives us the right?

I don't think that porn stars should be allowed to have children. I feel that it is a bad environment to raise children in-and I don't even want kids of my own-and I don't think porn stars deserve to be parents.
Allowed? Why not just line up all the porn stars, strippers, prostitutes, mentally below average, etc. and say they aren't allowed to have children as well because their lifestyle choice is as you put it, is a bad environment to raise children in?

And what bad environment would you be referring to, because I doubt anyone (including porn stars/ex-porn stars) will be birthing on set and raising them behind the scenes.

Deserve to be parents? Speaking specifically about Jenna's case, I think she is deserving of a chance. I'd sincerely hope that after having the life she's had that she would've learned from her mistakes enough to know the rights and wrongs of parenting. Saying someone doesn't deserve to be a parent is like ripping a baby out of the hands of a woman who tests just below the normal scale on the IQ test saying that she doesn't deserve to parent because she's classified by society's standards as mentally retarded.

If prostitutes are demonised for having children, then why not porn stars?
I have never met or heard of anyone demonising prostitutes for having children. The one's that do should be ashamed of themselves.

If Jenna worked a legitimate job and made legitimate money, maybe I feel she would be more deserving of children.
Just because someone who works a legitimate job and makes legitimate money does not make them more deserving of having children. Because, sometimes, those 'legitimate workers' may do a worse job than Jenna may.

Imagine when they go to school, "Isn't your mom a whore? Does that mean you'll be a whore when you grow up, too?" "Is your father your real father, since your mom has had sex with so many men?"
I'd be more concerned with the children who's mouths these statements are coming from. Talk about irresponsible and stupid parenting. Children do bounce back quite well from nasty comments and such. There's probably plenty of people who can name at least one person who has said a mean thing to them and bounced back. We can't shelter children from everything and to ban certain people from having children because of the potential mean comments that could be said to them is just ridiculous. We may as well tell everyone not to have children.


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[info]jon_is_angry

October 3 2008, 19:42:09 UTC 3 years ago

Re: People whom I feel should not be allowed to breed...

Sorry... I hit the wrong button I think... I meant for this to be a post in my journal, not a comment here.... Sorry!

[info]delphyne_

October 6 2008, 17:00:41 UTC 3 years ago

I have a lot more problem with pimps and johns having children, so that would rule Jameson's husband/pimp out plus the one in ten men who pay for sex in the West.

Why aren't you having a go at them? Leave Jameson alone.
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