Zombie Khaled ([info]mentalpuff) wrote in [info]anti_porn,
2005-07-22 03:41:00
Sorry if this seems a bit personal but it's somewhat porn/video game related. Feel free to add comments, whether they be insulting for having too much time at my disposal, or anything else. Warning-bad language.

Sometimes when I need a good laugh, I go see this guy's journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/neo_is_bad
It doesnt really take long, when you enter the site from you can already tell that this guy is the kind of person that only talks cause he likes the sound of his own voice. He thinks whatever he says is important because it sounds politically aware, thus he's no ordinary punk, he's the new breed of smart punk. The kind that never has anything good to say, and everyday tries to find something to complain about. What he fails to realize is that he's just a little kid, maybe obsessed with bad religion and wants to have somewhat of a say in political issues even though he might be wrong. However cute this may be, it does not make him john stewart.
Here's an example
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Here's the issues.

"Who gives a Shit"- Parents and people who dont want their kids watching video game sex.
5- "You cannot unlock the sex with ingame codes"- You're a tard, that's not the issue with the game. On top of the already too much excessive violence and highly sexual themes people now manipulate it to be even worse. I dont see anyone hacking away at, lets say, super mario brothers.

4- "This game is mature 17+"- Well, that meant you passed the reading test. Meaning, you can read this, which is good. While games do have ratings on them, just 2 years ago was there a state who actually put up a bill enforcing it. Basically these are the only ratings that are just guidelines. Any 11 year old kid could go to best buy and get a copy. And you should know how kids are, they dont give a fuck about this "barrier" of a rating system.
3- "You can download the hack from the Internet!!"- Oh shit, really? I guess its alright then. Lol, and half the intelligence to "track down a patch file". I'm gonna go out and buy some porn mags to hand off at the kids in the street, since it's so easy for them to get it anyway.
2- "So I downloaded a video of this supposed sex scene. Then I watched it."- While the guy may be in his pants..and you seem to get all giddy finding that out and get to say what we all love to say, magic penis, it's a sex scene, they're not concerned with what kind of sex it is, or what sexual position, or if the video game has a bad engine that makes penises invisible. It's sex, period.
1-"there are sexually deprived losers in delaware." (overdone insertion of some random picture popular in forums and the like for the humor uproar it seems to cause).-You should be there.


EDIT
Something that I didnt catch and was just recent news.
http://www.betanews.com/article/RockStar_Confirms_Hot_Coffee_Not_a_Hack/1121884637

Blaming the people who find this stuff is like blaming a kid for breaking his dad's safe to find his dad's porn stash. It really shouldnt've been there in the first place.

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[info]mlfoley

July 21 2005, 20:01:27 UTC 6 years ago

You're a tard, that's not the issue with the game. On top of the already too much excessive violence and highly sexual themes people now manipulate it to be even worse. I dont see anyone hacking away at, lets say, super mario brothers.

In a sense, it actually is. Going after Rockstar for this is sort of like going against a director for sex that he filmed in a scene that never made it to the theatrical print but somehow got out on the Internet.

And people do make Mario Bros hacks. For example, "Super KKK Brothers" (I wish I was making it up)

Any 11 year old kid could go to best buy and get a copy. And you should know how kids are, they dont give a fuck about this "barrier" of a rating system.

Fair enough, but if so, that's the fault of Best Buy, not Rockstar or GTA.

Oh shit, really? I guess its alright then. Lol, and half the intelligence to "track down a patch file". I'm gonna go out and buy some porn mags to hand off at the kids in the street, since it's so easy for them to get it anyway.

I agree with him here, too. If a kid can download GTA mods then he can just as easily find porn on the Internet. It has nothing to do with buying kids porn mags, it has to do with the fact that you can't just "stumble" across the sex scenes in the game, they have to be "unlocked" with a third party program that modifies files in the game. If a kid can find that, he can find nude pictures of women.

[info]mentalpuff

July 21 2005, 20:09:27 UTC 6 years ago

Actually, it's not bestbuy's fault or any of the retailer's faults. It's that no one really enforces these ratings. Super KKK brothers is a bit different than looking at a porno, and isnt made with mario brother's programming.
GTA has sex without the mods.., Why is it there in the first place for it to be "unlocked".
There was a problem with the game before the mod. Now just more people are noticing it because of this.

"In a sense, it actually is. Going after Rockstar for this is sort of like going against a director for sex that he filmed in a scene that never made it to the theatrical print but somehow got out on the Internet."

I'm not sure I follow on that one. There was sex before the mod..every women in town is a hooker.
A better comparison would be, going after a director that made a sex scene, but in the theatrical print people added a few more money shots.

[info]mlfoley

July 21 2005, 20:38:19 UTC 6 years ago

Why is it there? Probably because it was easier to just re-assemble the code to avoid the sex scenes instead of removing those scenes entirely.

There was sex before the mod..every women in town is a hooker.

There are hookers, but most of the female characters are not hookers.

A better comparison would be, going after a director that made a sex scene, but in the theatrical print people added a few more money shots.

No, because in my example, there was a sex scene that was removed from the final cut, which is what Rockstar did in the case of the stuff that "Hot Coffee" mods.

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[info]pherio

July 21 2005, 22:57:01 UTC 6 years ago

Nice Warriors icon.

[info]mentalpuff

July 21 2005, 22:58:02 UTC 6 years ago

warriors?

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[info]mlfoley

July 21 2005, 22:59:18 UTC 6 years ago

Thanks! :D

[info]johnnyinamerica

July 21 2005, 20:34:45 UTC 6 years ago

That guy is an ass. His type are a dime a dozen. He reminds me of a maddox wannabe. As if one of them wasn't lame enough.


[info]mentalpuff

July 21 2005, 20:35:45 UTC 6 years ago

I knew he sounded familiar.

[info]thisglasnost

July 21 2005, 20:46:58 UTC 6 years ago

People like that really irritate me. I've been looking at his journal and i met too many self-obsessed twats like him at uni to put up with. Ugh.

[info]venemesis

July 21 2005, 21:36:59 UTC 6 years ago

I talked about this online with some friends the other day. Let's get down to the nittygritty.

Rockstar have fucked up. End of story.

They applied for the M rating for their game when they should've applied for the AO rating instead. But because MOST retailers won't even stock and shelf AO games, they found that they were in a bit of a fix as of course they want to sell their games to as many people as possible. Now that some codes/hack (NOT A MOD!) have surfaced about revealing some graphic sex scenes that were left out of the inital game but left there as an easter egg for fans to find, they should be rightly bollocked for decieving the certificate board just so they could make some more moolah.

[info]mlfoley

July 21 2005, 21:45:22 UTC 6 years ago

If it was just a code, there would be no need for a seperate program. I can get lots of free cash in Sims 2 by using a code and it doesn't require downloading anything. Game hacks require downloading something.

[info]venemesis

July 21 2005, 21:49:08 UTC 6 years ago

That's not what I heard, if it requires downloading, unpacking and installing and it was coded and distubuted by a person. Then it isn't a hack or a poke, it's a mod.

[info]mentalpuff

July 21 2005, 21:54:17 UTC 6 years ago

http://www.betanews.com/article/RockStar_Confirms_Hot_Coffee_Not_a_Hack/1121884637

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[info]venemesis

July 21 2005, 21:57:29 UTC 6 years ago

In other words, to distinguish between a mod and a hack. If the guy was just publishing the binary code to hack into the game and uncover the sex, then it's just a hack and it's Rockstars fault.

However if this guy has actually PROGRAMMED something that you have to download and install and run alongsise with GTA to make this happen (intentionally, he programmed the game to do that.) then it's a mod and it wouldn't be Rockstar's fault.

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[info]mentalpuff

July 21 2005, 21:54:26 UTC 6 years ago

http://www.betanews.com/article/RockStar_Confirms_Hot_Coffee_Not_a_Hack/1121884637

[info]mlfoley

July 21 2005, 21:59:26 UTC 6 years ago

No one is denying that the scenes are on the disc. No one "created" them for download. But hotcoffee is still a hack since it works around the standard game code to open up things that are not accessible otherwise.

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[info]venemesis

July 21 2005, 21:46:42 UTC 6 years ago

I mean what are these guys asking for? If Rockstar had stuck to the board of certificate guidelines, like most everyone else does. They wouldve avoided this. It sounds like to me they're blaming people with gamesharks and hacks instead of Rockstar for their effin' incompetance.

[info]mentalpuff

July 21 2005, 21:47:53 UTC 6 years ago

Good point!

[info]litfit

July 21 2005, 21:57:12 UTC 6 years ago

People are just arguing semantics now. Easter eggs are nothing new. When a project manager discovers one late in testing, they tend to get really pissed off because it's too late to pull the content and re-test the entire product without causing "heisenbugs". So they generally tell the programmers to disable the codes that trigger the eggs, and leave the content in.

This sort of stuff goes on in the software industry all the time. You can try to blame Rockstar as a company, as though they're some hive mind entity, all on the same page, all conspiring together. Or you can face the reality that this was one level developer trying to get an easter egg into the product to brag to his/her friends about.

If you're going to blame Rockstar for something, blame them for the tasteless game that management actually signed off on.

[info]snowlilly

July 21 2005, 23:08:54 UTC 6 years ago

On question number 2, sure the guy keeps his pants on, but I'd like to know if the girl is naked or not.

[info]mentalpuff

July 21 2005, 23:10:35 UTC 6 years ago

She does.

[info]snowlilly

July 21 2005, 23:14:29 UTC 6 years ago

Well if she does keep her clothes on, then it's no better than the porn/sex scene that they had in the last GTA game. (my ex-boyfriend played it and found a side quest where you can make a porno movie! Grrr...) I still think it is lame, but I don't know why they are making a big deal over this, but they didn't over the last one, even though it had a sex scene that didn't need to be specially unlocked.

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[info]litfit

July 21 2005, 23:26:46 UTC 6 years ago

I wouldn't read too much into it, in-game characters for naked ladies probably already existed.

[info]venemesis

July 22 2005, 18:29:45 UTC 6 years ago

Watching it, I found that it wasn't something as simple as a bit of superficial glitchy type sex, but yeh.. it's pretty graphic and intentionally made.

(if you didn't catch the below post..)

She's completly naked, the only person who isn't naked is the main character, he's fully clothed but she ain't wearing a thing.

The scene is around 2 to 3 minutes long,
There full nudity of the woman,
There's descriptive pornography-type moaning and groaning and "how do you like that, huh?" talk coming from the guy.
She goes down on him and gives him head.
He shags her in a few positions on the bed as the camera pans in and zooms in on the couple for the rest of the scene.

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[info]venemesis

July 22 2005, 18:44:33 UTC 6 years ago

Seen it. It's just like a mini porn movie, though it's not akin to a sex-scene you would see in a R rated movie as it has all the characteristics of a porn movie. Although it's not as explicit as hardcore porn (bodily fluids, close ups of genitals and genital grinding) it's just that step up from average softcore that you see in most R rated commercial movies. So yeh, that's why it's irked off the certificate boards as it's definatly past that M rating.
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